16 comments

  • bentley 8 hours ago
    100 years old, yet its copyright only expired five years ago—in the United States. In Europe and other life+70 regions, the film will remain copyrighted past 2050, even though Lotte Reiniger died nearly half a century ago!
    • johncoltrane 4 hours ago
      What's the problem, here?
      • rob74 1 hour ago
        Part of the problem is that it wasn't possible to upload it to YouTube until recently (and someone from Germany could still demand for it to be taken down or made unavailable in Germany), while also, being almost 100 years old, it was not released commercially - which both conspired to condemn it to obscurity.
      • AnimalMuppet 4 hours ago
        The problem is that copyright is supposed to secure for the authors the benefits of a creative work for a limited time. If it's decades longer than the longest human lifespan, that's not "a limited time" in any sense that is meaningful to humans.
        • TFNA 14 minutes ago
          Copyright is now a global thing harmonized by treaties, and the view you describe is the one from the American Constitution, but other countries (even if they compromised on a certain length in treaties) aren't necessarily coming out of the same legal tradition.
      • madaxe_again 2 hours ago
        Says the guy using a registered trademark as his username.
  • JoeDaDude 2 hours ago
    For those interested in the subject, animation has quite a history before Disney came onto the scene. I suggest this book:

    Before Mickey: The Animated Film 1898-1928 by Donald Crafton

    Personally, I remain impressed to this day with the pioneering work of Winsor McCay, the cartoonist who created Little Nemo. Perhaps the best example:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW71mSedJuU

  • JKCalhoun 12 hours ago
    Amazing film. (I discovered it via "1001 Movies to See Before You Die.")

    Copies are on YT:

    https://youtu.be/7V_8aFQUfBw

    https://youtu.be/AbXjEoD_dIE

    https://youtu.be/j6DaB0Is4jM

    • bentley 8 hours ago
      It can also be watched in full on Wikipedia, as is the case with many films that are public domain in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Prince_Achme...
    • MrBuddyCasino 4 hours ago
      Remarkable visuals. Could be an indie computer game.
      • dofm 4 hours ago
        I am not a gamer but there is an indie game I wanted to try — is it called First Light? — that is essentially a shadow puppet realm.

        There's a game I did try that used silhouette visuals that are IMO very Reininger-inspired — Limbo.

  • Jordan-117 1 hour ago
    I first encountered it set to Radiohead's "Sail to the Moon," which pairs quite well with the eerie visuals:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq-ggx0TlkA

  • 1659447091 3 days ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-TJvNBO1fw

    17 min documentary showing Reiniger's technique/process

  • pumanoir 2 hours ago
    There's app that allows you to do something quite similar in real time:

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/quikanimate/id6467067883

  • jimbokun 14 hours ago
    I’m shocked I never heard of this before.

    Just watched the first couple minutes of The Adventures of Prince Achmed and it’s unlike anything I’ve seen before.

    • thaumasiotes 10 hours ago
      > it’s unlike anything I’ve seen before

      It's a filmed shadowpuppet performance.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_play

      • veltas 6 hours ago
        This is not true, it's a stop-motion animation.
        • thaumasiotes 5 hours ago
          Of what?
          • dofm 4 hours ago
            They are jointed paper-cut figures (cut and then fastened with split pins and thread I think), laid out on multiple stacks of glass and ground-glass to simulate depth, and then back-illuminated (just as shadow puppets would be).

            It's frame by frame stop-motion capture, for sure.

      • tokai 3 hours ago
        Looks like stop motion Scherenschnitte.
  • klondike_klive 7 hours ago
    Animators (and storyboarders, layout artists, illustrators etc) are still taught to prioritise the clarity and readability of the character's silhouette, although they're usually working with a three quarter view (between side profile and front-on) rather than a profile like the shadow puppets here. Still I can't help thinking this film would be a good object of study.

    Some of the forest scenes remind me of the original King Kong in their use of dark foreground shapes and framing devices to give an impression of scale.

    https://youtu.be/j6DaB0Is4jM?t=1720

    https://youtu.be/1vNv-pE8I_c?t=72

  • gwbas1c 3 hours ago
    Looking at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V_8aFQUfBw, the film is impressive and has merit.

    Should we say that it's "animated?" I know it's an argument of semantics; yet it's nothing like the hand-drawn animation of early Disney movies.

    • rob74 2 hours ago
      Animation isn't just hand-drawn animation, it's any kind of movie composed from individual still images. And stop-motion animation is a subcategory of that, no matter if you use clay/putty (like in Wallace & Gromit), Lego figures or paper cutouts (like in this case or also on South Park).
  • yiyus 9 hours ago
    Starevich was doing stop motion animated films in 1912: "The Beautiful Leukanida" or "The Cameraman's Revenge".
    • ginko 5 hours ago
      The key part being "feature film". There's tons of animated short films from the 1910s.
  • acoster 10 hours ago
    IIRC, that's the movie they play on loop at the kids section of Landesmuseum in Zürich.
  • bmacho 10 hours ago
    It's The Adventures of Prince Achmed (1926). IMDB page: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0015532/
  • FpUser 6 hours ago
    Never heard about it before and just watched it on youtube. I have found it absolutely beautiful.
  • bsder 11 hours ago
    I wonder if she knew of Henri Rivière and his "Ombres Chinoises."

    https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/henri-riviere-master-printm...

    The Shadow Theatre at "Le Chat Noir" was fairly famous, no?

  • ChrisMarshallNY 13 hours ago
    Amazing story!

    I was unaware of her.

    Thanks!

  • ostacke 6 hours ago
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